Join Jason Hartman as he interviews Dr. Bill Osmunson, a leading dentist in the fight against fluoridation, about the many questions and fallacies surrounding the use of fluoride in fighting tooth decay. After water districts began questioning him about the safety of fluoridating water, Bill started researching the effects of fluoride. His findings changed his mind quickly about its safety. Listen at: www.HolisticSurvival.com. Among the many dangers associated with fluoridation, one of the worst things happening is what it does to the brain. Studies have shown that areas with heavier fluoridation, there is a tripling in the number of mentally handicapped individuals, with a significant IQ drop of 6 – 8 points. Fluoride also creates apathy in children and adults and has been used for many years to calm down hyperactive or ADD/ADHD children. Other results of Bill’s research showed that the U.S.’s rate slowing down tooth decay has been the same as other countries that have promoted better and proper care of teeth, but who do not fluoridate the water. Bill says as a topical treatment, it may help to a small degree, but it definitely does not help to ingest it. Unfortunately, two different branches of the government disagree on whether fluoride should be swallowed or not. Warning labels on toothpaste recommend only a pea-sized amount of toothpaste to be used and warn to not swallow. Bill says the recommendations for limiting a person’s exposure to fluoride is to basically not drink tap water, but that it is nearly impossible to get away from it because it also leaches into the skin through showers and hand washing.
Jason and Bill also touch on the subject regarding the safety of mercury fillings. Bill said a mercury filling in the mouth is a trillion times more concentrated than what is found in rivers. Due to leaching of the mercury within the mouth, decay is found more than 80 percent of the time underneath a mercury filling. During brushing, cleaning, eating, and drinking hot liquids, the mercury is constantly coming off, causing mercury vapor, which is harmful as well. And like fluoride, mercury goes to the brain and into the blood stream. In Alzheimer’s patients, one of the things doctors look for in the brain is the level of mercury.
Dr. Bill Osmunson has been a dentist for 34 years, with a Masters Degree in Public Health. For the first 25 years of his practicing career, he promoted fluoridation. Following his research into the hazards, he is now involved in the fight against fluoridation of water. He produced a YouTube video talking about the issues surrounding the use of fluoride.
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Start of Interview with Bill Osmunson
Jason Hartman: My pleasure to welcome Bill Osmunson to the show. He is an expert on the subject of fluoride or, more specifically, fluoridation in our water supply. And, you know, for a long time, I’ve heard the rumors about how fluoride is dumbing us down and that’s the reason the government puts it in the water under the guise of preventing tooth decay and so forth. But now we have a practicing dentist who, for many years, believed in fluoridation and has changed his thoughts on that and I’ll let him tell you the story. Bill, welcome to the show. How are you?
Bill Osmunson: Very nice to be with you, Jason. And it’s gonna be a great time together.
Jason Hartman: Good, good. Well, you’re coming to us today from just south of Portland, Oregon. And tell us your story how you believed in fluoridation for so many years and then had a change of mind on the subject.
Bill Osmunson: Yes. I, first of all, got my master’s in public health and nutrition, health education, and then went into dental school and my idea at first was to go into third world countries because I grew up in Africa and helped them in developing countries. But after I got out of dental school, I had so much school debt that I really couldn’t go for quite a while and by the time I got into private practice I realized we have just as many problems here in the United States and North America as we do in third world countries – they’re just different kinds of problems. So I never did get back to any third world country to work as a dentist. And I feel like we have a lot here that we can improve on. I went back to where I grew up in Kenya and as I stand there on the street corner, I just started watching people in Nairobi and I thought, you know, I still haven’t seen anybody that’s really obese. Now, I know there are obese people there but I just hadn’t seen obesity. We have more of a malnutrition problem in The United States than we do in Kenya in these third world countries. So it’s easy to look at somebody else and say how bad they are but when we look in the mirror, sometimes it’s not as pretty as we’d like. So with fluoridation, it’s really the third thing that I found on dentistry that was a problem. I know that we have a problem with our mercury fillings. In fact, there’s some news that just came out yesterday from the World Health Organization and they’re recommending that we discontinue the use of mercury fillings in the mouth. It’s an absolutely insane concept in this day and age to be putting mercury in somebody’s mouth truly is at times more concentrated than in the rivers which is prohibited to be putting it into the rivers and that they were concerned about.
The next one was in migraines, headaches, TMJ, TMD, facial head pain, muscle pain of the head. We dentists are responsible for the muscles of the head. And when we put the piece into position where the muscles have to work hard and are not comfortable at rest we increase and cause temporomandibular disorders – very, very discouraging. So I was walking up and down the hall, waiting for my next patient in my office and I thought if there’s two things we are really wrong on, problems come in 3s. And I was passing a basket on the floor that had toothpaste in it that we’d give out a sample, and I thought, oh, I don’t even want to look at it. I hadn’t looked at it since dental school.
I really wasn’t interested in fluoridation. I knew it was safe and effective, I knew I could see it in my patient’s mouths that it was a benefit, I just knew it was all good, so why do I open up this can of words that my patients had been telling me look once again at fluoridation and look at the fluoride issue. And I really don’t want to, but I hadn’t for about 25 years and it was time I looked at it because I had just gotten the call again from another water district saying is it safe, is it effective, should we use it? And I said “Of course it’s safe and effective. Of course you should use it.” And I thought, you know, I never looked at the research, I never looked at what was happening. It’s time I look at the research again. And after I look at the research, it was like a knee in the gut. It’s not safe, it’s not effective, and we’re getting far too much from too many sources. It was absolutely terrible.
Jason Hartman: Very interesting. So let’s just go on the fluoride thing first. Many years ago when I was a kid, I heard that the government puts fluoride in the water to dumb people down. First of all, does fluoride dumb one down? Is that true?
Bill Osmunson: Well, that’s not the intention. That’s really not the intention.
Jason Hartman: Right. But does it do that? I mean, let’s assume there’s no big conspiracy.
Bill Osmunson: We don’t want it to do that, but absolutely it does, especially cognitive reasoning. But that’s not why the government does it. That’s a side effect that we don’t like and we need to get into that and some of the other risks. But you’re absolutely correct and it’s not a conspiracy in the sense that this is some sort of bizarre government taking over the world to change us. They are trying to change us on our teeth – they just aren’t looking at the science.
For instance, who promotes the fluoridation? The Center for Disease Control is one of the biggest pushers of this drug. It’s not an approved drug. And they’re saying it’s safe and effective, safe and effective. But if you read their website carefully, they’ll be right up front saying it’s not the responsibility of the Center for Disease Control to determine the safety of fluoridation. So, they’re really not looking at safety and if you say, well, who at the CDC is really pushing this, it’s the oral health division which may be demoted to something less than a division here in a bit, but the dentist – there’s a handful of dentists who are saying it’s really safe and effective – it’s really good. And so they promoted, along with the American Dental Association, a handful of dentists. Dentists don’t diagnose IQ. They don’t diagnose a brain. They don’t diagnose the kidneys. They don’t diagnose the rest of the bones. They don’t diagnose the thyroid or all these other organs. They look just at the teeth. And so the government is looking at teeth. They’re not looking at any risks involved and it does dumb us down to get more specific since you brought it up, and we need to do it. It dumbs us down by about 8 IQ points. 6 to 8 IQ points is what the research is showing.
When you compare the states in The United States, ranking them on the percentage of population fluoridated in each state, those states that are having more people fluoridated have a tripling of the mental retardation, which is about the equivalent of half a standard deviation on a ball curve which is the equivalent of about 8 IQ drop. Now, when they go and they measure communities of the serum fluoride levels, they find that indeed there’s about a 6 to 10 IQ point drop in areas where they have an increase in fluoride.
Now, when they do the IQ study tests, they find that the biggest problem is with cognitive reasoning, and that’s a huge other issue. But let’s get down to the bottom line here. The worst thing that’s happening is to the brain. Even if it was helping the teeth, and it doesn’t, if you’re gonna say “What’s more important? My teeth or my brain?” we can fix teeth. We can’t fix brain. You don’t have the IQ, we can’t get you more IQ. If your child is mentally retarded, we can’t fix that usually. The burden to society with an 8 IQ point drop, they’ve done a lot of studies in IQ and income. And for every IQ point less that people have is the equivalent of about $1000 less in income. But if you take 8 IQ drop, that’s roughly $8000 a year lower income. Multiply that by roughly 200 million people in America that are fluoridated and you’re looking at $1.6 trillion. That’s another Iraqi war type of thing. The loss of income, the loss of money based on the lower IQ is huge.
Now, that doesn’t really show all the problems because it goes through the entire IQ spectrum so that we have about a third as many of the very gifted. We have a tripling of the number of the mentally retarded or mentally handicapped – scientifically it’s called mentally retarded. And then we have the whole gamut in the middle, the rest of us in the middle who are skewed down by more IQ points down.
Jason Hartman: I’ve got a question, though, on that, Bill.
Bill Osmunson: Sure.
Jason Hartman: So that’s interesting about the IQ and income, the $1000 per year in income for each IQ point, but I don’t know if this is really just a matter of IQ per say. I’ve also heard that fluoridation may make people just generally more apathetic. I mean, there are smart people who are apathetic. And it may be just more passive in general. Is that another element of this or is that not true?
Bill Osmunson: Absolutely. You’re right on. Back in 1859, the first real study that they did with Floyd was they give Floyd to dog and they created a goiter in the dog. So they knew that the thyroid got bigger when you ended up with an increase of fluoride. So to counteract the goiter problem when I was in the School of Public Health, we went to a place in the Philippines where they had goiters. And I said to my main professor “So, if they just add a little more iodine, that would take care of the goiters, right?” and he said “Yeah.” I said “So what caused the goiter?” Then he looked and he said “You’re going into dental school – we don’t want to talk about that.” I said “Now, come on, come on. He was an MD.” He said “Well, it’s because they’re getting too much fluoride in this area. And when you get too much fluoride, why then your thyroid decreases amount of production, and to compensate for that the body grows a bigger thyroid called a goiter. And so to counteract the excess fluoride, why then we started adding more iodine to try to correct for that. When we reduced the thyroid function, we make people less active. We make them so that they’re a little bit “tired” or “lazy”. I don’t care what term you want to do it, they just don’t have the energy to do as much. So to get the energy, they eat more and we end up with thyroid problems, tending to have more obesity. We end up with more diabetes because of that and other kinds of diseases. That’s one of the problems that it hits the thyroid.
And back around the 1920s and 30s, before World War II, they used fluoride as a drug to calm children down as attention deficit disorder drug. In fact, they still use it. Attention deficit disorder drugs usually have fluoride in them. But the fluoride would reduce the thyroid and calm the child down. In fact, one physician wrote in a publication “Just continue giving them fluoride because in time they will calm down. You just have to continue using the fluoride.” So it does cause them to become a little more docile, a little bit less reactive by having the fluoride.
Jason Hartman: That’s scary. Okay. So can we do anything to limit the amount of fluoride? I mean, just don’t drink tap water? Does it matter if you’re showering in tap water, washing your hands in tap water? Is it leaching into our bodies that way as well?
Bill Osmunson: Yes, and that’s very discouraging. But how do we get rid of it? Let me give you an example. I have a friend who has a son who’s about 26. He’s autistic. He’s been autistic since about the age of 2 or 3. And the mom knows that her son, throughout his life, has had a terrible problem with drugs, medications, anything for pain. He has lots of pain. When he has the pain, his doctors have all said we’ll give him pain medication. When she gives him the pain medication, he has bad reactions to it. So she doesn’t give him the pain medication because of the bad reactions. And she’s trying to find out what’s causing the bad reactions? So one day a friend of hers said you need to be sure you don’t give him fluoridated water. And she said “What?” So she went to the store and got some bottled water, started giving him bottled water. And he really improved. Now, he’s still autistic but his pain decreased. He didn’t scream like he was doing before with pain. Little tiny things can set him off, just even a felt pen can set him off because of the smell of it. Photocopiers can give him problems. He’s very, very chemically sensitive.
And so she felt like that was great and she was so excited she started to help me on some of these fluoride problems. But then another friend said, well, he’s still taking a bath in the shower. Have you done anything about that in getting rid of the fluoride there? And she said “Oh my, I hadn’t even thought about that.” So what had been happening before is he had sort of a job at a school where he was doing just simple tasks and when they would give him a bath in the morning he couldn’t go to work because he was in so much pain. So they would start to give him a bath at night and he would pace the floor screaming. He’s a good 220-230 pound young man and very, very strong, tall. So here’s this ferociously angry man at night and she said “I know him, he knows me, but sometimes it’s a little scary the way he is so strong, he’s so big and he’s in so much pain, screaming for help.” So what I did is I said “Well, try not giving him the fluoridated water for the bath.” And she said he sleeps at night, he goes to work during the day, he’s still autistic but he’s not having that bad reaction. So she now heats her water on the stove and puts it in his bath so he can take a bath without the fluoridated water.
Jason Hartman: So heating the water kills the fluoride or destroys it?
Bill Osmunson: No. Unfortunately, that’s like when I was in Africa, we used to boil the water to make it safe from pathogens, but fluoride does not go into the air as a gas at boiling temperatures. Now, you can boil off the chlorine, you can boil the bugs, but you can’t boil out the fluoride. So if you have fluoridated water, which most people in The United States do – about 75% have fluoridated water – then you cannot boil it off. If you have it in your teapot and you keep adding water to your teapot, your concentrating the fluoride, getting it stronger and stronger. So this is a serious problem that you can’t blow it off. Home filters, the traditional like Brita, those kinds of things, do not take the fluoride out. You have to go with a reverse osmosis and that’s a problem because it makes the water very acidic. So a lot of us have gone to getting ionized water where we can get the pH back up to where it’s supposed to be. So it’s not easy to get the fluoride out of the water.
Jason Hartman: So what does one do, then, to limit their fluoride intake?
Bill Osmunson: Excellent question. There are many sources of fluoride. The National Research Council says that water is a primary source of fluoride for most people. So if you can not drink your fluoridated water and beverages, not drink it and mixing it with your tea or your juices and not drinking it for your water, you’re gonna get rid of pretty close to half of what most people have as their fluoride intake which would be excellent. The second thing to do is your toothpaste is the second most common source of fluoride. The tube on the toothpaste says “Do not swallow.” The Food and Drug Administration has approved fluoride over the counter use. They have not approved fluoride for swallowing for tooth decay but in the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, where they approve drugs, they haven’t approved it but in over the counter they have. And in it it says “Do not swallow.” They’re very serious about it. They also say use a pea sized amount of toothpaste and they’re serious about that. Why? Because a pea-sized amount of toothpaste has a quarter milligram of fluoride. They’re concerned about a quarter milligram of fluoride and not to swallow it. That’s the same amount of fluoride that has been found in every glass of fluoridated water. In other words, one branch of the government says you have to swallow. The other branch of the government is saying “Do not swallow.”
Jason Hartman: That’s the typical government thing where these branches are conflicting. This happens all the time with the legal system where the laws conflict with one another and it leaves a businessperson at a loss. They want to obey the law but they don’t know which one to obey.
Bill Osmunson: You’re exactly right. And the thing about it is it’s usually the water districts, public health departments, who are the least competent to decide whether this fluoride is safe for everyone, which it’s not. And the Food and Drug Administration, Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, that’s what Congress has given them the job to do. And so if we’re gonna say do I listen to the city council who are made up of school teachers and plumbers and businesspeople and those kinds of things and they’re gonna evaluate the signs and give it to me with or without consent or do I go to the Food and Drug Administration, Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, who that’s their full time job. That’s what Congress has told them to do. They have the policies, the procedures to look it over, to do the best. And it’s those people that should be taking the bull by the horns or the fluoride by the jar and saying, look, we’re not gonna do this until it gets approved. Fluoridation should not be put in the water until it’s approved by the FDA/CDER. They probably would not approve it.
Jason Hartman: Yeah, right. Have we sort of covered most of the things on the fluoride topic? Because I want to ask you about the mercury and some of the other issues?
Bill Osmunson: Well, there’s a few more things on the fluoride.
Jason Hartman: Yeah, let’s kind of wrap up on the fluoride. I want to ask you about mercury because a lot of people talk about that too.
Bill Osmunson: Sure, sure. One of the other things that caught my attention was mother’s milk. Now, for babies, everyone says that mother’s milk is the ideal nutrition against which all other forms of nutrition should be judged according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. Mother’s milk has no detectable fluoride in most samples that were tested. When they do detect it, it’s a mean level of .004 parts per million, almost nothing in it. If a caregiver provides an infant with formula made with fluoridated water, that’s hundreds of times more concentrated with fluoride than mother’s milk. Now, you either have to say, look, the city, the water district is correct in giving my infant this fluoridated water with all this fluoride or mother’s milk is correct. They aren’t both correct. The difference is way, way too far in difference. And the baby’s brain is developing. This is where when they do testing on the infant or when they do autopsies on fetuses they find that the brain has not developed as well is in animals 2/3 the weight when they have low levels of fluoride in the water for the mother. So the first place we need to really look for sure, it may be a problem with the egg and the sperm, but at least we need to be saying to mothers the same as we do with smoking and alcohol, do not drink this water if you’re pregnant because the fluoride does cross the placenta to the infant. With mother’s milk, the infant is protected more. But if the infant is getting formula, they should not have that formula made with fluoridated water.
It’s not gonna prevent decay. We can go on and on and on how it’s not gonna prevent the decay. And when we look at countries of the world, most developed countries of the world do not fluoridate and they’ve reduced decay just as much as we have in The United States with fluoridation. If you look at before we fluoridated water, decay dropped in half before we even started fluoridated water. It’s continued the same rate, same amount after fluoridation was started, so there’s a good chance that fluoridation really played no effect on it because other countries have done the same thing, we’ve done the same thing, everybody’s done it with or without fluoridated water.
So it does not reduce tooth decay when you swallow it. Topically, there is reasonable evidence I think that topical does reduce tooth decay some. But the risks are high enough that I feel that if a person is having dental decay, what they need to do is start brushing and flossing their teeth more accurately. It’s not that people aren’t trying – well, some aren’t trying, but most people are trying – it’s the accuracy of the cleaning. That’s one thing.
Jason Hartman: When you say accuracy, you’re talking really about the mechanical action of the toothbrush, right?
Bill Osmunson: Exactly, exactly. We’ve got about 128 different places in the mouth that we need to clean. If you had 128 of anything and tried to do it in a minute or two, you’d have a hard time doing it. So we’ve got all these curves and in between the teeth and around the teeth and in the grooves. We’ve got to spend the quality time mechanically disturbing that bacteria and that plaque and those bugs and trying to get them so that they are not there.
Jason Hartman: So for how long should one brush? I mean, is it a 2 minute process? This is interesting. We’ll get a little lesson on this, a little primer on this since we’ve got the dentist on the line.
Bill Osmunson: That we should spend about 3 minutes on the brushing. I like to brush my teeth when I’m in the shower. The toothpaste doesn’t really do a whole lot for us. Think of fluoride like you do suntan lotion. On the surface of the tooth, it has some benefit. But swallowing it, you don’t swallow suntan lotion – you don’t want to swallow it. But on the brushing, make sure you get to the very back teeth, you get as well in the grooves as you can. And you can’t clean those grooves.
Jason Hartman: What’s the best toothbrush to use? An electric toothbrush, a Sonicare, those types of things? Or are those gimmicks?
Bill Osmunson: They’re gimmicks, but for some people they help you because they have a little timer on it so it helps you brush a little bit longer. Sometimes people say that I don’t have to move my hand when I’ve got this electric toothbrush. Okay, well, fine. You don’t get the exercise. That’s okay, no problem. Just hold your hand more still and let it do it. It may be a little bit faster because if the toothbrush moves fast I think some of the Ultrasonic stuff does help a little bit but it’s just not gonna take care of the significant problems of preventing all decay. It’ll help on the periodontal disease more than it does even on the decay.
Decay is more of a factor of diet. For instance, if you see a baby and they have bottle carriers and this is one reason public health would say well we gotta fluoridate people to get rid of this bottle carrier. It’s the bottle that’s doing it. Putting a baby to bed with a bottle, watch the teeth because a baby will suckle just a little bit with that juice or that milk and it will stay on the teeth and there’s not the swallowing, not the saliva action while they’re asleep and they’ll rot the top teeth usually because the tongue is protecting the bottom teeth more. So diet is, I think, a bigger component of preventing decay than even the brushing and the flossing, although I think you need to do both. But sticky foods, sugar foods, getting your general health really good is more important than all the gimmicks and the potions and the chemicals.
In America, we go by corporatocracy. We go by Wall Street. We go by advertising, marketing, all these types of things. If you’ve got a product to sell, then it becomes famous. And so we try to push a pill for every ill, so that we can give you a bill for that pill. And that’s all it does is it’s a marketing gimmick where, in reality, maybe don’t do any of the pills. Don’t throw chemicals at the ills. Just do some very good general diet and careful cleaning and you’re gonna be the best off for them. And then one other thing that I think is very important is people want more information. They need to contact probably 3 main big sources that I can highly recommend. One is FlourideAlert.org. It is a good webpage and you can spend days on that one because there’s so many research articles in there. You have to look around for whether they changed their website. So you have to look for them just a little bit, but there is thousands of them in there, hundreds anyway at least – I think probably close to 1000 or 2000. And then another one is SLWeb.org. And another one is WashingtonSafeWater.com. So those are 3 good sites that you can find lots of research, lots more information on it, dig into this issue deeper. And, of course, there’s the CDC and The American Dental Association websites for some of the other side of the issue which you have to look at the research and say what’s the story with this research?
And so let me talk about that just very briefly. There are no randomized controlled trials with fluoridated water. There should be. And we can do randomized control trials. But the government has never done it, at least and had it published. They may have done it but haven’t published it. So all of the studies that had been quality studies, open to real distribute and controversy. So we don’t have good quality of research. The research that we do have I think raises enough question that we need to give people freedom to choose. The public health laws are the strongest laws that are possible. We think that the Patriot Act is strong. Look, public health people could quarantine any one or any groups of people that they want for as long as they want. That’s what public health is all about. We can say, okay, these group of people here, you’re gonna be locked away in some shed for who knows how many years because we’re scared of you. Public health laws are very, very powerful and this is how we get fluoridation into the water. It’s used under police hours, saying that we’re going to prevent this highly contagious disease. I mean, it’s not highly contagious. And so they use the laws for the wrong purpose. It’s really sad.
Jason Hartman: Okay, can we shift gears and talk about mercury for a moment before we wrap up?
Bill Osmunson: Absolutely.
Jason Hartman: So, the mercury fillings – mercury is probably the most poisonous substance on earth and they’re saying that they leach into the bloodstream into the body and that’s what happens with these fillings. So should one get all of these old mercury fillings out of one’s mouth immediately? Is that an urgent issue or not that urgent? Leave well enough alone. If they’re in there, they’re in there.
Bill Osmunson: The short answer is yes, get them all out. I wouldn’t do them all at one time, but yes they should be out for three major reasons. The dental associations have said previously that if we took mercury fillings out on the suggestion or recommendation of the dentist, that it was unethical and some people have lost their licenses over that, but most haven’t. When I was young, I had a patient come in – they said I want to have my box filings taken out and I want a biodegradable filling. I asked him – I said “Well, you mean you want to have one that doesn’t have the mercury?” and she said “Yes, I do.” My eye is rolled up – I remember it very clearly – I looked up to make sure no one was listening because you weren’t supposed to talk to patients about this. And I said “It’s unethical for me to do that, but I understand that this is important to you. If you don’t tell anyone, I’ll do it for you.” She said “I won’t tell anybody.” So I took the fillings out and all this is surprise to me because the tooth looked wonderful. The filling was extremely well done. It had smooth margins. Nothing was wrong with that filling. I was taking it out purely because this person I felt was wacko, she was just a holistic whatever. I mean she was a treehugger – this is terrible. And I took it out and I remember looking inside that tooth going “Oh my goodness. This has a bunch of decay in here.” And I cleaned out the decay and put the filling in and I said “You know, it’s a good idea that you had it taken out” and I took the next one out and it had decay also. And, of course, patients started to come in more and more saying “I want my mercury out” and I start taking them out. I went to a continuing education course and one of my colleagues was asked I’m doing something that I feel a little bit guilty about. I’m taking out fillings that are just fine. And as I’m taking them out because of the mercury concern, I’m seeing decay under them. And the dentist looked at me and he smiled and he said “Yeah, about 80% of the time?” I said “Yeah, how’d you know?” He said “I’m doing the same thing”. But, of course, we didn’t talk about it back then.
I recommend all mercury fillings be taken out because the mercury leaks and we get decay around it. And somewhere around the 80% time, that tooth has decay under there. But the mercury is so toxic that the decay moves very slowly. You can wait until it gets big and then have the filling replaced with a crown or you can take it out when it’s smaller.
The second thing is that the mercury is constantly coming off. If you go to www.IAOMT.org, that stands for the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology .org, you’ll find there’s some short videos of showing the mercury as they’re brushing the filling, as they’re rubbing the filling, as they’re scraping the filling, extract the teeth and the mercury vapor that’s coming off. That stuff is going into your body and it’s not healthy – it’s not good. Now, there are different kinds of mercury that are in nature. Some of them are not as toxic as others. But it’s still coming off and the bacteria can change that mercury to a very toxic type of mercury in your sulcuses around your teeth. So it is a concern, it is a problem, and I do recommend that we have those things taken out.
Jason Hartman: What is the mercury doing? Is it a brain disease problem?
Bill Osmunson: Again, it goes to the brain. It goes throughout all the body, but of course it’s hard on the kidneys – like fluoride, it’s hard on the kidneys. But we’re definitely looking at some real problems with the brain. For instance, with Alzheimer’s, you’re looking at one of the biomarkers of Alzheimer’s is the amygdaloidal tangle of the mercury that’s in that complex. And I’m not a neurologist nor a neurosurgeon, but that’s one of the things they look for is the mercury in the brain. And the mercury gets there from somewhere. Your fillings are very close – when you inhale them, when you breathe, it’s going into your body. It’s really a problem. I’m gonna read to you just a little of some of the warnings that are given to the dentist.
Jason Hartman: Yeah, just read those real quickly if you would and then let’s wrap up because we’re running a little long, but this is a very interesting topic. And you know the nice thing about this topic is that it’s something that we can all do something about versus some of the other topics we cover on the show where it’s like bad news, but there’s nothing we can really do about it except be frightened or discouraged.
Bill Osmunson: Yes, and when you go in to talk to your dentist and say “I’m starting to have concerns that my teeth may split or crack or break because of the mercury that’s expanding in my tooh, I just don’t want it in my mouth.” If the dentist says “Oh well, it’s just fine – don’t have it in there”, I would find a different dentist. If they say “Certainly, I understand, respect that. We’ll give you some oxygen as we’re taking it out so that you don’t have to breathe that mercury and the decay and all the rest of it as we’re taking it out. We use a rubber dam. We’ll be very careful and protect you from getting the mercury out. I’m gonna wear a special mercury mask to protect myself. IOMP has a list of dentists who will help you do that. You need to make sure that you’re not breathing that stuff and if the dentist doesn’t have concern about it, he’s not gonna have concern for you. And if he doesn’t want to take the filling on out, it’s probably because he’s not having success with the tooth covered kind of fillings and you don’t want him to do the dentistry. So if they’re really not happy about taking out your mercury fillings that they just put in, then I would find a different dentist.
So a manufacturer says “Do not swallow or take internally.” I call the manufacturer up and I said “So, inside the tooth, inside the mouth, is that considered internal?” They wouldn’t respond. They said “Do not breathe the vapor.” Well, hang on a second. It’s in my mouth. Every time I chew, every time I breathe, every time I take a hot glass of water. I’m breathing stuff. Use protective masks during placement and removal. The manufacturer is saying I’m supposed to wear mercury protective masks. Give oxygen or artificial aspiration. Do not dispose in a regular garbage. There are all kinds of different things that are there. The list goes on even more to things such as you shouldn’t give it to girls or women who may become pregnant. You should not give it to people who may get kidney problems. You don’t want to give it to children. There are almost no people – there’s a certain group of men that you might be able to give it to as long as you get the fillings on out before they start getting older. So it just should not be used. I mean this is bad.
Jason Hartman: Yeah. Well, good points. Well, give out your website if you would and just let people know where they can find out more about you and you’ve given out some other good resources as well.
Bill Osmunson: Sure. If you want to contact me for references and everything, contact me at [email protected] Also, you can just do a search for my name, “Bill Osmunson video”, and you’ll see a video that was done. There’s several of them there on YouTube that will give you more simple explanation that FlourideAlert.org is a real good one to look up.
Jason Hartman: Good stuff. Well, Bill Osmunson, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate the info.
Bill Osmunson: Thank you very much, Jason, for having me and you have a great day.
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