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Start of Interview with Dr. Errol Gluck
Jason Hartman: It’s my pleasure to welcome Dr. Errol Gluck to the show. He is an expert on changing your thinking and changing how you interpret things that happen to you and a whole lot more than that which I will let him explain. And he is coming to us from New York today. Errol, welcome. How are you?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Thanks for having me.
Jason Hartman: The pleasure is all mine. So, you’ve got quite an extensive background, about 150,000 hours of individual counseling? Is that it?
Dr. Errol Gluck: It’s actually a world record in terms of hypnosis integrating with rational cognitive coaching. And hypnosis, it’s not stage hypnosis. It’s called neuroplasticity. It’s a real science taught in every medical school and I train a lot of doctors in doing this. And it is the way in which you affect the brain to process information and to reinterpret it so that your rational mind and your emotional mind are on the same page.
Because, Jason, so many people know what they’re doing is wrong, know that they overeat, know that they shouldn’t be doing certain drugs, know that they feel their anxieties are irrational, but they cannot change their emotion so that their intellect and their emotions are on the same page. Hypnosis combined with rational cognitive coaching allows them to change their life literally in hours and not years. And I’ve been doing this now for 35 years, 100 hours a week. So, that’s how I amass those crazy hours.
Jason Hartman: Wow, 100 hours a week.
Dr. Errol Gluck: My office hours are from 8 am to 12 midnight and we don’t take breaks.
Jason Hartman: You work too much, my friend.
Dr. Errol Gluck: I just am very, very high energy and it’s my passion. I love it. And eventually I’ll slow down to a 60 hour week and that’ll be fine.
Jason Hartman: Slowing down to a 60 hour week. Because in a normal 2000 hour work year, in 35 years you would have accumulated 70,000 hours assuming each hour was booked with an actual client. That is amazing. When you talk, Errol, about how people know what they should do, they know they should change this, they should change that, but they don’t do it, you just brought to mind one of my favorite quotes. It’s a Zen saying actually. And that is to know and not to do is to not yet know. So, how do people change their behavior. Like you said, they know what they should do but how do you actually get yourself to do it.
Dr. Errol Gluck: It’s interesting because in Hebrew the word “to know” means to have intercourse with. So, there’s a difference between cognitive rational knowledge which means they have an intellectual understanding or to really know which means they have experience. So, what happens is for some people they come to the problem and for some they simply don’t have the mechanics of how to deal with their problem. So, they actually lack knowledge. They lack focus, they lack knowledge, they lack structure or procedure and they need just coaching.
But for others, there are true emotional blocks. There’s fear, there’s anxiety, there’s phobias, there’s lack of belief. And that is when you use neuroplasticity or clinical hypnosis to actually change the way the brain interprets the information. So now all of a sudden things that were previously fearful or anxious, they’re simply not there. I could take a person who smoked for 30 years and in 2 sessions they don’t smoke or a person who had fear and depression/anxiety their whole life and in 4 or 5 sessions it’s just not there. They’re experiencing those previous feelings, whether it’s claustrophobia or fear of planes or whatever the case might be – it’s reinterpreted in the brain.
Jason Hartman: How do they do it, though?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Each induction, it’s a verbal induction. Each one is based on each person’s personality. It’s a talk induction. And what we are doing is we’re mapping out the way a person receives information. Therefore, just the way everyone has their own fingerprint and iris print and tongue print, I develop a hypnosis session based around their personality. For some, it’s more visual. For some, it’s more auditory. For some there’s some tapping involved which is some neurological tapping. It really changes based upon who I’m dealing with. And that’s why it’s very difficult to do this profession without literally having 2000 hours behind you to know what you’re doing because you can know everything but there’s nothing like experience that makes you good at something.
Jason Hartman: Maybe the best way to sort of ask this question is to ask for an example? Would that be a fair way?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Sure. You could ask anything you like.
Jason Hartman: So, I come into your office and I say I’m having trouble getting myself to exercise enough. What do you do?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Alright. So, I would see what the problem is. So I would talk to you about your life and I would talk to you about what the motivation is for you to exercise to make sure you’re doing it for yourself and not for someone else. Lots of people have problems doing certain tasks like exercising or giving up drinking because it’s not them who wants to change. It’s their wife or their girlfriend. So, I first want to make sure that it’s really your idea. Then, I would try a baseline which means I would give you what you should do procedurally to start the exercise. We would pick a time, we would set an alarm, we would do all the coaching function of what you would do with anyone who did not have an emotional block. Now, if you’re able to do that, then fine, we don’t need hypnosis.
If you cannot do it, then I would find out what’s the resistance to exercise. Is it lack of motivation? Is there an underlying depression? Is there a fact that you procrastinate and that you put everything first. Is it an issue that looking good creates another secondary fear of you don’t know how to communicate with women. You can’t date – you have an ED problem. When people avoid something, there’s always a fear component. And then we use the hypnosis to eliminate the resistance and to eliminate the fear.
Jason Hartman: When you say hypnosis, I know there’s a lot of misinformation…
Dr. Errol Gluck: The person is put into a state of high suggestibility. They are not passed out. They have consciousness. But the brain is in a place where the brain itself is about 3 or 4 pounds of fat tissue. It has about 100 billion neurons which are nerve cells, about 6 trillion dendrites which are fiber that connect one nerve to another and there are synapses in between. So then there’s the neurotransmitters. What you’re doing in neuroplasticity is you’re really changing in the way in which the brain fires or the logical pathways that information takes. And if a person to a SPECT scan prior to hypnosis, afterwards you would see that their brain literally is functioning differently.
Jason Hartman: It’s pretty amazing stuff. By the way, I want to mention something to you and the listeners. My mother was a smoker for many, many years. She was sort of a militant smoker actually. And she went to a hypnotist and in 2 sessions she was basically going through withdrawals. I remember there was one night, it was very tough for her. And after that, I think she went back for a 3rd session, never smoked again. In fact, she thinks smoking is disgusting now. And she smoked for probably 20 years, pack a day. It just worked incredibly well. I couldn’t believe it. I mean, I was a kid when this happened, but I do remember it. It’s amazing.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Smoking in 35 years, we have about a 96-96 percent success rate. But that’s only one of many things. The most common thing a person comes for to be honest with you is anxiety procrastination, fears, phobias, fears are the most common, also drugs and public speaking and shyness. Then the list goes on. But it has the same effective rate. And the problem is that most people were trained or only trained in smoking or weight control, but it’s effective to everything else if you have the experience.
Jason Hartman: And my question really that I wanted to asks when I told you about my mother’s success with the smoking cessation is why doesn’t everybody use this? Like, I don’t think of hypnosis as a mainstream thing. It seems like it’s a bit out there on the fringes. A lot of people, they take all sorts of psychiatric drugs and I’m very much against those from what I know about them. I’ve done some shows on them. But they’ll go see a conventional, if you will, psychiatrist or psychologist or some kind of counselor. Why don’t they go see a hypnotist? I mean, I hear a lot of success stories and I know one personally, my mother’s story.
Dr. Errol Gluck: And here’s why. The truth of the matter, Jason, is that most hypnotists are poorly trained. The National Guild of Hypnotists, which is the oldest and the one with the most status, I am a certified instructor which means I give the certification course for people to practice. But I will only train the medical doctor, psychiatrists, psychologists, dentists, clinical circle. I won’t just train the average person. And this is both a skill and an innate ability to do it and then it takes years and years to practice. And, unfortunately, in this type of practice, you have so many incompetent people that people go and they have horrible experiences and/or they think of hypnosis like stage hypnosis, that they’re passed out and they’re gonna be made to do things they don’t want to do.
Hypnosis is where chiropractic was 30 years ago. So, that’s really the problem with the lack of education. Those who go to someone who is recommended by their doctor or has a great reputation and it’s a recommendation from someone who’s been highly successful, it is the quickest way of changing your life in a very short period of time. And that’s what people want. They want results.
Jason Hartman: So why hasn’t the industry, like other industries, sort of cleaned itself up if you will to get the quacks out of the business so the rest of the pros, like yourself, can shine through it? Can become less of a fringy type of thing?
Dr. Errol Gluck: They’re actually trying, meaning the National Guild where I’m a clinical instructor. You have to take a number of hours each week [0:13:12.8] each year. Extended training, you’re always going for more and more training. The problem is that it is a combination of a skill and an art. And you’re not going to really be able to do this until you have about 5000 hours under your belt. And, unfortunately, what I used to do when I started 35 years ago, I simply give everyone a free session. I would work 7 days a week giving free sessions out until I got better and better and better.
Now, I was a natural to begin with. I was really very good naturally. But it did take years to get to the level where I had the knowledge that I am going to absolutely nail it each and every time and that just takes a lot of time where it’s not just science – it’s science and art.
So, you do have some good people out there but they’re just not a lot. And that’s why you really have to research them thoroughly and make sure they have a good reputation and talk to them. If you don’t feel comfortable with someone, just don’t go to them. If you go to anybody who’s dealing with your mind and you’re not impressed the first time you meet them, don’t go back.
Jason Hartman: How much does it cost?
Dr. Errol Gluck: It all depends on what the person’s being treated for and it all depends on where the person is living. If someone is very good and they’re in Kansas, it’s gonna be different than if they’re in the middle of New York like myself and they’re paying $10,000 for a relatively small office a month. And it all depends on the experience of the person. You are going to be paying for experience because, at the end of the day, what would take someone 20 sessions may take me 3.
Jason Hartman: What other advice do you have for people who want to change some of their behavior? Actually, before you get into that, maybe you can just touch on a little bit more about how you teach someone to interpret things, interpret their circumstances differently. I mean, that’s kind of the crux of your technique, right? Interpret things differently and then the mind will react differently. Is that correct?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Correct. And that’s an excellent question, Jason. And a perfect example is this. Let’s say that there are not too many parents who have the skills to be parents. They’re getting a little bit better now, pushing 60. So, when I was coming up, parents had really very, very little skills, if any. But let’s say a parent simply told the child that they’re not very bright and they’re stupid and they’re not gonna amount to anything. And that has traumatized the person and caused them to have low self-esteem and be an underachiever.
So, one of the reinterpretations is first rationally to discuss with the person that the parent didn’t say that because it is true. They said it because they have their own problems and they just projected those problems onto the child. The child, when a person is born, the frontal lobe or the part of the brain that deals with logic and reason, homosapien brain, that’s the frontal lobe, isn’t even fully wired until 18 and 25 which is why so many children are so messed up.
So, to explain to them that everything they absorbed as a child they absorbed emotionally and they took that as true. But it wasn’t true. It was just that they had no way of rationalizing, well, my parent is a nut or an alcoholic or just an angry person and they’re just dumped on me. So, once you explain to them what really happened and then you put the suggestions in during a hypnosis session, it really redefines their whole experience when they were young and it changes everything.
Jason Hartman: Interesting. So, until one is about 25, you’re saying they can’t interpret the context in which the message was sent. They only interpret how they feel about it.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Absolutely.
Jason Hartman: Well, a very good reason why car insurance goes down at 25.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Exactly. And you know what happens? This is true, David. They don’t grow up, they grow old. So, what happens is they take those emotional pains and they stay with them until they’re 80 and 90 and they still see themselves through the eyes of their childhood experiences. And the beauty of hypnosis is that a person is not in counseling for 10, 20, 30 years. Their issues are dealt with in a very, very fast rate, sometimes 2 sessions, sometimes 4, sometimes 8, it all depends. But it’s really reasonable. And when the person is changed, they are changed. They don’t come back a year later for the same thing.
Jason Hartman: What’s the typical sort of engagement if you will? How long does someone come and see you?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Tell me for what condition?
Jason Hartman: I don’t know. You tell me.
Dr. Errol Gluck: You pick anything.
Jason Hartman: The example I gave, getting someone to be more active.
Dr. Errol Gluck: 3 sessions.
Jason Hartman: How much money would 3 sessions cost, for example?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Let’s say about $300 to $400 an hour.
Jason Hartman: Per hour. So, for about $1000, give or take, they can totally change their life.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Yes.
Jason Hartman: Wow, amazing.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Amazing, yeah.
Jason Hartman: Anything else you want people to know? Give out your website if you would.
Dr. Errol Gluck: My website, my name is Dr. Errol Gluck. My number here is 212-599-3195. My website is GluckSolutions.org and my podcast is GluckRadio.com.
Jason Hartman: Good. And what final advice would you have for people?
Dr. Errol Gluck: Life is short. It’s unnecessary to live in pain for another day. People simply think that it’s the better thing to grit their teeth and they’ll work it out. People don’t work anything out. They just repeat the old habits and they’ll get engrained. Get help, make sure it’s quick, make sure you’re dealing with a true professional, and be happy. Being happy is the best revenge.
Jason Hartman: That’s most certainly true. Dr. Errol Gluck, thanks for joining us today.
Dr. Errol Gluck: Thanks for having me.
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Transcribed by Ralph
Guest: Dr. Errol Gluck
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