With a growing wealth disparity across the U.S. as the middle class moves out of expensive states or is significantly reduced to poverty in other areas, there comes ripe ground for a battle between the “haves” and “have-nots.” It is becoming more and more important to protect oneself and family from rising crime. Jason Hartman is joined on this episode by self-defense expert, Alex Haddox, to discuss best practices in self-defense. The first point that Alex addresses is awareness and avoidance, which are key to survival. Based on the military alertness color code, there are five levels of awareness, white, yellow, orange, red, and black. White is a total lack of awareness and black is being stunned and unable to react. Listen at: www.HolisticSurvival.com for Alex’s life-saving advice. Alex talks about the importance of women’s safety, high vulnerability situations, particularly bars, and stresses avoidance is the best solution. Jason and Alex also discuss home security, with lighting being the first step in deterring a home invasion. Alex goes on to explain other security steps homeowners can take, but most importantly, once again stressing awareness as the best defense.
Alex Haddox took his first martial arts lesson at age ten. He has over sixteen years of combined traditional martial arts training in multiple styles including American Kenpo, Hapkido and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. He has studied under world-renowned masters including: Grand Master Bong Soo Han, Grand Master Larry Tatum, Senior Master of the Art Mohamad Tabatabai, Master Bill Green, Master Eric Friske, Master Danny Cruz, and Jim Wagner.
Mr. Haddox teaches both traditional martial arts and Jim Wagner’s Reality-Based Personal Protection system. He believes there are a place and a need for both in today’s complex and often dangerous environments. Each type of training offers their own benefits and equally valid point of view to the student.
In a previous career, Mr. Haddox was the Product Manager and co-founder of the Symantec AntiVirus Research Center (SARC). He was considered one of the world’s leading computer virus experts, traveled worldwide on speaking engagements and appeared on national television programs, including Good Morning America, CNBC, the Discovery Channel and Fox News Network.
His work and personal life have taken him all over the globe including countries in North America, Europe, Africa and South America. He has seen some of the world’s greatest cities and walked the streets of some of the most underprivileged. His experience has taught him that safety starts with knowing how to conduct yourself and what to be aware of, not necessarily where you are.
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Start of Interview with Alex Haddox
Jason Hartman: My pleasure to welcome to the show Alex Haddox. He is an expert in self-defense, home security awareness, understanding the threats that are out there and he is a master marshal artist. So I’m sure you’re going to learn a lot today about the things you need to do to protect yourself in real world situations. Alex welcome, how are you?
Alex Haddox: I’m doing great. Thanks for having me on again.
Jason Hartman: And when you say again, you were on another one of my shows, so these listeners may not know that. But you were on the Speaking of Wealth show talking about podcasting. And that was a great interview and your subject area was so fitting for my Holistic Survival show that you were kind enough to join us today to talk about some of those issues. So thank you for that. First of all, tell the listeners where you’re coming to us from.
Alex Haddox: I’m actually based in Los Angeles.
Jason Hartman: Fantastic. My home town, where I grew up in LA. And certainly not one of the safer cities by the way.
Alex Haddox: Yeah it’s, any major city where you have a lot of people in a compacted area, things tend to get a little dicey at times.
Jason Hartman: But I’d especially say LA is bad and the reason is the whole, pardon my political commentary here, but the whole socialist republic of California is becoming really sadly a banana republic where you’ve got the rich and the poor. And the middle class is just fleeing that state. And whenever you’ve got that kind of haves and have-nots type of environment, I think it lends itself to instability. When you go to South American banana republic type countries, I mean I don’t want to live in a place like that, Alex. Even if you are rich and you’ve got all the things you want, you’ve got to live your life under constant fear and threat, bars on the window. I was in Costa Rica last year, razor barbed wire around people’s houses – this is no way to live. That’s just my little political thought on it. And sadly I think that’s what so much of California, and especially LA is becoming. It’s really too bad that that’s happening. If you have a comment on that, feel free. Let’s jump on the topic area too. Any thoughts?
Alex Haddox: Well, having spent my entire life in Los Angeles and I’m seventh generation southern Californian, there is a huge disparity in wealth. I mean we have the super, super wealthy because of business and the movies and then literally just down the street there’s abject poverty. And their one block is okay, the next block is a slum. And so getting from a nice area to a bad area to rob, is not that hard. It’s sometimes a matter of a couple of blocks. They installed a brand new freeway down by the LA airport and it joined a really bad neighborhood to a really good neighborhood and they called it the criminal highway. Because the guys would go into the good neighborhood, rob, and the first thing they would do was jump on that freeway and hightail it out of there. So whenever there was a robbery, the first thing the police did was jump on that freeway and start looking for speeding cars.
Jason Hartman: Sad, sad stuff. Boy, I tell you. That’s just really sad. Well let’s first just talk maybe about awareness. One of the things that I think is particularly scary is, well I live in Phoenix now. Grew up in LA as a kid, spent my adult life in Orange County until just last year when I moved to Arizona and I love it. I’m very pleased with the move. However I keep hearing that this is like the kidnapping capital of the United States with these Mexican drug gangs and so forth and I guess kidnapping kind of in particular is becoming, certainly when you’re traveling abroad and in certain countries, but even in the states now is becoming more of a threat. So I think the first thing is really awareness isn’t it, Alex? Awareness of one’s surroundings, right?
Alex Haddox: Absolutely. I’ve done some world traveling myself. I’ve been to Africa, South America, Europe and of course all over North America. And it really doesn’t matter where you are; awareness and avoidance are the key to staying safe. And actually I have a book called Practical Home Security: A Guide to Safer Urban Living. And I have an entire section of the book just dedicated to awareness. Because it doesn’t matter if it’s in your own backyard – you need to be aware of what’s going on around you. And one of the things, I also have a podcast called Practical Defense and I have 217 episodes out now. And that’s the primary part of what I preach, is awareness and avoidance. So it is critical, no matter where you are and what you do.
Jason Hartman: And what can one do to be more aware?
Alex Haddox: What I’m going to refer to now is known as The Cooper Color Code. And it’s by Colonel Jeff Cooper, who was an icon in the self defense industry way back in the day. He took the military awareness color codes and adapted them to civilian use. And there are 5 different levels: white, yellow, orange, red, and black. And white is where most people are, which is complete lack of awareness. These are the people you see jogging down the street with headphones on, bopping to their music and almost get hit by a car, or the person texting that falls into a manhole, or the people that are just unaware of their surroundings.
These are the people that are setting themselves up to be victims. And that’s the lowest level. That’s white. That’s where you don’t want to spend your life. The next level is yellow. And this is relaxed awareness. And this is where you want to live your life. This is comfortable, but aware. This is not paranoia. This is understanding what’s going on around you – being visual, listening, and smelling and feeling. You use all of your senses to be in tune with your environment so you’re aware of what’s going on. You hear the rustling in the trees. You feel the breeze. You see the colors. You see the movement. And then in these situations, if something’s out of the ordinary, it jumps to your immediate consciousness. And it brings it to the forefront of your brain so you can then focus on it and identify if it’s a threat or non-threat.
And this is where you want to be. Relaxed awareness. Color code yellow. Orange is when you’ve identified the threat and you’re taking active action to avoid the threat. So you see the sketchy looking guy down the block, or there’s a dog walking off a leash and you’re with a young child. And you take steps to protect but you’re not panicked. You just say oh there’s something that’s going on, let me pay attention to it. Then red is an actual crisis, when you’re actively avoiding, you’re escaping or you’re actually in a physical conflict. And the last one is black. And black is when you’re actually stunned. You’re unable to respond. There’s so much overload that’s going on in a situation that you’re stunned and unable to do anything except for stand there and not be able to react.
Jason Hartman: I guess particularly important, and this may sound kind of odd, but I want to be really practical here. I think that a lot of threats are particularly prevalent, and correct me if I’m wrong, when one is obviously off-guard but maybe they’re out, it’s a Saturday night and they’re out on the town partying. And that includes alcohol and maybe late at night. And I think that’s a particularly vulnerable situation. Any tips on that? People, when they’re under the influence of booze, they don’t think as well. So maybe being hyper practical; how can partiers be more aware? Any thoughts on that?
Alex Haddox: Yeah I have lots of experience with that. My friends always like to invite me along because I was pretty much the self-designated safety guy. We would go out and we would party and I would drink the least because one of the things I hated was getting intoxicated to the point where I felt vulnerable. So I never ever drank to excess. And my friends took advantage of that and just completely let loose and knowing that I would keep an eye on things and keep an eye out for them. They also used to joke that when I started getting nervous was when the party started really getting fun. But alcohol and any sort of narcotic is generally a bad idea for security because it lowers your inhibitions and it lowers your awareness and ability to recognize threats and respond to them.
Jason Hartman: I think this is a particularly big threat for college age girls. You look at like Natalee Holloway, the threats they face are bigger than the threats the rest of us face. And so parents be worried especially about your girls. I live in a college town. I live next to a big college here in Arizona. And I see these kids out and they’re just drinking like fish. It’s really scary.
Alex Haddox: Oh yeah. And one of the things that I teach the teenage girls and the young women that I teach is that you never ever accept a drink from a stranger if you’re in a bar unless the bar tender hands you the drink. Don’t drink it. If somebody goes, I’ll get us a couple of drinks, I’ll be right back. No. You have no idea what’s happening to it.
Jason Hartman: Walk up to the bar, grab your drink and don’t leave your drink.
Alex Haddox: Absolutely. If you’ve left your drink, it’s done. Don’t finish it. Get your own drinks, and sometimes even in sketchy places, sometimes the bartenders are questionable.
Jason Hartman: The bartender could be in cahoots, exactly. But certainly that’s very good advice. What else?
Alex Haddox: Never drink to excess. And if you feel uncomfortable, leave. There is so much social pressure for women to be nice, to be compliant. One of the big things is, it’s okay to be a bitch! If you feel uncomfortable, pull out the bitch and just be annoying. Be more trouble than you’re worth. The guys, I’m not going to say all guys are predators, but there can be predatory-like behavior either from a criminal or a guy who’s just being overly aggressive. If you’re feeling uncomfortable, be a bitch and leave. It doesn’t matter. People are worried about reputation. Forget reputation. Your life is more important than some college reputation of being not a nice person or not a team player. Screw that. Your safety is far more paramount. I personally know women who have been date raped using roofies. Literally went out partying with some friends, woke up on the beach, had no idea how she’s gotten there and she had been raped. And was just abandoned on the beach.
Jason Hartman: The roofie is like a prescription drug, right? What is it for? What is the thing that it treats? How do these kids get a hold of it?
Alex Haddox: I don’t exactly know. I’m really not big on the drug culture – I don’t know exactly how it happens.
Jason Hartman: Scary stuff. Really scary stuff. I saw on a program that it had the drink, I was hearing about someone that got spiked with a roofie and the drink tasted slightly like it had sort of a Dr. Pepper taste to it, a little bit but it’s almost undetectable from what I hear. It’s just very subtle so no one’s going to sense it in their drink.
Alex Haddox: And if you’ve already had a few drinks you may not be aware of it. Which again goes back to the point of being aware and not getting too intoxicated. And not getting to the point where you’re unaware and you’re not losing control.
Jason Hartman: I don’t think a lot of people are following that advice but it’s great advice, certainly. What other kinds of awareness, like are there certain places that are particular vulnerabilities? Obviously don’t walk down dark allies late at night. What are the sort of particular threat places? I’ve heard many times that the garage, if someone lives in a sort of suburban style house, you pull into your garage and you’re getting out of the car, maybe you have packages or groceries with you, the kids, whatever. And that’s an easy place to be distracted and usually the door’s open and you can be pushed right inside the house. And there you go – you’ve got a home invasion on your hands. Any thoughts about high vulnerability places?
Alex Haddox: Well you hit on a big one there and I’m going to come back to that in a minute because that’s kind of the long stories around ambush as you’re entering or leaving your home. But in terms of vulnerable places, it’s bars.
Jason Hartman: Well that’s what I brought up first.
Alex Haddox: Bars are just bad places. There’s a lot of alcohol, there’s a lot of ego, there’s a lot of machismo, there’s a lot of strutting and preening to try and win the attention of the women. And there’s a lot of…
Jason Hartman: A lot of bad behavior in general.
Alex Haddox: Yeah. Between the drugs and alcohol and young hormonal people, it’s just bad.
Jason Hartman: Couldn’t agree more.
Alex Haddox: Just avoid. Avoid, avoid, avoid. I know people love clubbing, but it’s dangerous. The other thing that in addition to avoiding bad places is avoiding certain types of people. If you hang out with the wrong crowd, you’re going to get into trouble. This is something that our parents have taught us since we were out of diapers. Don’t hang out with that crowd. It is absolutely true and it still holds even if you’re 20,30 or 40 years old. If your friends get into trouble and go looking for trouble and cause trouble, you will get sucked into it. So it’s really, choose your friends wisely.
Jason Hartman: The old saying, if you lie down with dogs you’re going to get fleas. That’s definitely true. One thing, coming back to women, certainly women have a higher developed intuition than men usually and I really do believe that. I think one of the things where women can make the mistake is they don’t follow their intuition. They feel it. A lot of times I’ve heard stories of various victimizations and you’ll hear the victim maybe talking about the incident and they’ll say, you know I had a feeling, but I didn’t listen to it. So listen, trust the intuition, I would say, right?
Alex Haddox: Absolutely. There’s a ground breaking book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker.
Jason Hartman: I’ve heard of it.
Alex Haddox: Oh, I have several copies on my shelf. One always stays on my shelf and there’s another hard copy that I loan out all the time, so I always keep two copies.
Jason Hartman: Tell us about what it says.
Alex Haddox: It’s hard to summarize, but basically it is follow your intuition, follow your gut. The reason why the book is called The Gift of Fear, is that the fear is what keeps us alive. That tingling, some people call it a 6th sense in the back of our brains that says hey, something’s not right. That’s what you listen to. That’s what you need to listen to. Now we are conditioned socially to suppress that, to talk it away. Well, he’s a nice and I’m just being silly, and all these other things. So you talk yourself out of these little nags and those nags are based on very subtle behavior that your intuition picks up on. Body language, choice of words, location, sounds and smells, all those awareness things. Your subconscious is processing those and sends up these little flags saying something’s not right. And that is what Gavin De Becker calls the fear response. Listen to it. React to it. Get out of that situation. And that’s I guess the book in a nutshell.
Jason Hartman: Yeah, good. Talk to us about the actual defense. We talked about awareness. Let’s cover defense really quickly. Then I want to talk about protecting one’s home. What can people do if they’re confronted, if they’re in a situation, what do you do? Hit the guy in the Adam’s apple? What’s the advice?
Alex Haddox: Well, it depends upon what the threat is. Because regardless of whether you know it or not, there is a legal standard for what you are allowed to do in terms of a physical response. And it boils down to you have to respond with equal force. So if the guy punches you, you’re allowed to punch back. If the guy kicks you, you’re allowed to kick back. If the guy pulls a weapon, then you’re moving up the scale to lethal force, and then you’re allowed to respond with an equal or a reasonable amount of force there as well. So, and I’m giving a real short synopsis here. So basically, if somebody tries to punch you, you’re not allowed to pull your gun and shoot them. That would be excessive force. And there are also different caveats and different levels, and there’s disparity of force like a woman against a man, and able bodied versus disabled, child against an adult, so there are all these. It’s very nuanced. But the core of it is if it’s man versus man, you have to respond with equal force. And you can’t jump the rungs and move up on the ladder unless you can legally defend it in court.
Jason Hartman: Okay so what kind of force? Someone comes at you, what can you do? They’re bare hands, no weapon.
Alex Haddox: Well then you respond bare hands, no weapon.
Jason Hartman: Bar fight. But what is the response? What specifically should you do? What do the martial artists say? Where do you hit, what do you do, what’s the technique?
Alex Haddox: Wow, okay. What you need to do is not focus on defeating on the opponent. Your focus needs to be on escape, because if you stick around to fight, a fight is illegal. Because that’s a cooperative event. If you’re up there and you’re bumping chest with this guy, and it’s your mother stinks, no your mother stinks. That’s a fight. That’s illegal. It doesn’t matter who throws the first punch in that case. You’re both going to jail.
Jason Hartman: How do you escape?
Alex Haddox: Escape. There are two ways. When you’re actually being attacked, the person is trying to overwhelm you with force to disable you to do what they want to you, either take your stuff or hurt you. You need to be more aggressive in response. Instead of trying to retreat, because a lot of people, especially the untrained think well I’ll just defend myself and somebody will come to my rescue. No. No one’s coming to your rescue. No one is going to jump in and help out in a fight. It doesn’t work that way. And it’s going to take 15 minutes for the police to respond once the telephone call is made. You have 30 seconds before this thing is over. So what you need to do is you need to attack back. You need to push back. You need to attack into their attack in order to get them to stop. The whole point is to make them stop. It’s not to defend yourself, it’s to make them stop. And the only way to do that is to be more aggressive and more violent in response to their attacks.
Jason Hartman: And what does that include?
Alex Haddox: Whatever it takes. Kicking, punching, the fancy karate moves that you see in the movies are stuff of myth.
Jason Hartman: Sure. But there are vulnerable zones of the human body though. That’s what I’d like you to speak to. Just give anyone advice who’s maybe lesser equipped as to what they can do. There are certain points of the body that are more vulnerable than others and they aren’t the commonly used fighting points. They’re not, typically people just punch each other. But the smart person uses some of these vulnerable places and uses those as the defense points.
Alex Haddox: Right. What I like to teach is if you’re in those types of situations and you really need to escape, if you take out the knees. Because if you take out the person’s knee, you can walk away. Because they’re not coming after you afterwards. And then once the attack has stopped, you are legally required to stop as well.
Jason Hartman: I don’t want to talk about the legal stuff, Alex. I don’t think it matters that much. I think we’re talking about much lesser people that get attacked. The opponent is usually the stronger person. That’s why they’re being aggressive. Because they think they can victimize someone. I want to talk about survival. I don’t care about the law yet. I don’t think this is a fair fight to begin with, and I don’t think the person listening is going to keep attacking the person. They want to survive. So how do they take out someone’s knee for example?
Alex Haddox: Well the best way to take out a person’s knee is with a very low round kick and attack it from the side or attack it from the front.
Jason Hartman: And the knees are pretty vulnerable aren’t they? In terms of that sideways motion. Is it true that that’s why someone if they’re at the ATM or standing, concerned about any threats shouldn’t lock their knees? Are the knees less vulnerable when they’re unlocked, when you’re not completely locking them standing?
Alex Haddox: They are absolutely less vulnerable when they are not in the locked position. And one of the reasons why you would want to stand with bent knees at the ATM, is not so much to prevent attack but to allow you to be able to respond more quickly. Because if you have to respond quickly, the first thing you have to do is you have to bend your knees. So you waste time unlocking your knees if you remember to. Because, again, if you’re not trained…
Jason Hartman: Milliseconds, really.
Alex Haddox: Milliseconds, milliseconds. And even if you’re untrained, you don’t know to automatically unlock your knees so you’re going to spin and you’re going to fall over. So by keeping your knees slightly bent, you’re going to better balance and better reaction time and reduce your risk of falling when somebody attacks you from a hiding spot. But it does protect the knees as well, so that’s good. A lot of people like to talk about going for the eyes, but again we’re talking about lethal force there. So if you’re in extreme danger and you really feel that your life is threatened, and in most cases this is talking about women versus men, the eyes are a target. But they wouldn’t be a target for the normal person. The whole point is to get them to stop, disable them somehow so you can escape, and then escape.
Jason Hartman: You want to talk about home security? We just have a few minutes left, so I wanted to make sure we cover that. Any good, big, easy tips that someone can do to protect their home.
Alex Haddox: Oh yeah. There are lots of things that you can do to protect your home that are very easy and inexpensive and I really cover these in my book. And lighting is very important. It’s not the end all be all, because you really need a layered system to protect your home. But lighting is a very good, inexpensive deterrent. So I would start with lighting. And the next is awareness of your property. What are the vulnerable points to your property? Walk around. See where people can hide. Keep an eye to those places, keep light on those places. Something people also don’t really pick up on is that the back of the house is a very common point of entry. So what they’ll do is even if they don’t go down your yard, they’ll hop your neighbor’s wall, go down your neighbor’s yard, and then hop the wall into your backyard. So if you think about your yard, it’s walled, it’s got big trees, you want to keep it quiet…
Jason Hartman: Easy place to hide, yeah.
Alex Haddox: It’s a perfect place for them to sit back there, unviewed and work on your doors or work on your windows to try and break in.
Jason Hartman: Cutting back shrubberies is another good tip, I’d say.
Alex Haddox: Absolutely, absolutely. You want to have a clear view of the front of the house so anybody driving by can see it so there’s no hiding places. If you look at my yard, everything is less than waste height. It’s like somebody a child’s height just went around and buzzed the whole place. You want to keep that visibility because criminals don’t want to be seen. So making high visible areas and keeping lights up is important. And to go back to the point that we talked about earlier with the garages. Garages are actually very dangerous places – car ports especially. Because what happens with car ports and garages is we’re distracted, we feel safe because we’re “in our homes” but we’re not. Because garages really should be considered, from a vulnerability perspective, outside of the house. And so there are a lot of ambushes that happen right there at the garage.
And people will follow you home, if you’re in a nice car. And this has happened to my own mother twice. My own mother has been followed home from the grocery store twice. Fat, grey haired old lady in a nice Mercedes followed home. But fortunately she lives in a gated community and as soon as the guys saw them following her, they turned around at the guard gate. And my mother’s the most unobservant person in the whole world, so who knows how many times this actually happened. But there are also cases here once or twice a year where judges are murdered in their garages by criminals because they knew where they work. The court house. And so it’s either the family, or they get let out of prison and they’re mad at the judge for the sentencing or they blame him for something that happened during the court case, and so they follow them home and they murder them as they’re getting out of their cars in their garages.
So you need to keep your awareness at all points. And there are lots of cases where people, I had a friend who I used to go to the gym with, and he was actually an IRS agent, and after one of our workouts, in his carport, in a very nice part of town he was held up at gun point in his carport as he was getting out after one of our workouts. The guy put up a gun to the back of his head and said give me your wallet and he said here you go, and he said count to a hundred and I think my friend counted to two hundred before he turned around. Never saw the guy. So yeah, these ambushes are really a problem. One of the things I recommend is alarm systems for your house. And what a lot of people do is when they first go in the house, the alarm starts beeping right, and your instinct is to run and turn off and stop that infernal beeping. Don’t do it. Let it beep. You have 30 seconds right? Get into the house, shut the door, lock it, then turn off the alarm system.
Jason Hartman: And before you even lock it, turn around and take a look at your surroundings. Just take a quick glance and make sure they’re okay before you shut the alarm system down.
Alex Haddox: I practically back into my front door. But I’ve had Emails from listeners of my show in other countries asking about these types of entries because they’ve had friends and family ambushed coming into their home. One of the guys was in Mexico City and he said his friend’s family with the kids and everything came home from dinner one night, got ambushed, they were all tied up inside the house and had to watch these guys go through and completely empty out the house.
Jason Hartman: Yeah, scary stuff. My grandparent’s suffered a home invasion robbery and I remember hearing about that when I was a kid. And this stuff really happens in real life so it’s good to be prepared. Well Alex Haddox, give out your website if you would and tell people where they can learn more.
Alex Haddox: Sure, thanks. My corporate website is palladium-education.com. And we do workplace violence prevention training, fire arms training, and self-defense training. We’re working on a program now for professional security guards. And my podcast is called Practical Defense and it’s free, and it’s weekly. And I’ve been doing it for about 5 years now. You can get all these type of tips that we talked about here today on the show. And my book is called Practical Home Security: A Guide to Safer Urban Living. And it’s available on paper back and all the various eBook formats.
Jason Hartman: Fantastic. Well Alex, thanks so much for joining us today, appreciate it.
Alex Haddox: No, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
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